byz Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Seriously, my liver can't take it anymore. https://soundcloud.com/lowdownwithlowetide/lowetide-on-the-oilers-5-0-loss I can't even offer up a trade proposal. I've got biased opinions, but I'm curious what fans of other teams think of this tire fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeoiler Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I'm with you byz ... it's hard to think of what to do, exactly, it's such a mess. My kids, friends and I keep going round and round on this, with no real solutions to show for it. The team is such an anomaly, it's crazy. How can a team have the best penalty killing percentage on the road and the worst penalty killing in the history of hockey at home, at the same time!? How can a team go from being exciting and full of promise in the playoffs last year, to this dysfunctional pile of crap with basically the same roster, the only two noticeable exceptions being that Sekera was hurt, and Ebs is gone. But if memory serves, everyone in Oiler nation was trashing Ebs throughout the playoffs and it didn't seem like a big deal when he was traded for Strome. But I keep going back to the overall talent and compete levels in the middle and bottom of the Oilers roster. I think you start from there, trying somehow to replace the 10 to 12 players who are really AHL calibre at best and trying to upgrade from the bottom up. These trades or roster moves may be easier to make seeing as we're talking 3rd and 4th line players. Move Maroon at the deadline for the best pick you can get, and start doing what the Oiler front office has historically been terrible at ... drafting well. We're seeing that incompetence now, especially when we open the cupboards and see that there's little there. I guess the one consolation is that we've been freakin' awesome at winning draft lotteries, so let's hope we can pull that off one more time. So, in terms of fixing the Oilers, all I can think of is trying to make minor deals to upgrade the bottom six forwards and bottom 4 D, trade Maroon for the best pick we can get, and try to win the lottery and get Dahlin in here. Sounds a lot like my retirement plan. I can't think of any other major deals that would help this team more than it would hurt it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festivus Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 i like the Oilers too, but if they win another lottery; I'm done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originaljroc Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I'm in the fire Chiarelli camp. It starts there. I don't trust him to make another deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originaljroc Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) That said about Chiarelli, I'm also in the don't panic camp. I think a lot of his moves have come from the pressure of a panicking fan base (I.e. We need a D and have to do whatever we can to get one - bye bye Hall and Barzal). Essentially the Oilers are this year's Avalanche, so sell off what makes sense but don't clean house. Still plenty of elite pieces on this team. I mean, they've outshot teams most nights this year and they rarely get beat on puck possession. Crazy breakdowns and the PK are killing them. Also don't think Talbot has been great this year. Maybe change up the goalie coach? Edited January 25, 2018 by originaljroc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Price and Gallagher For Draisatl Talbot 1st pick do it ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festivus Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 throw in Plekanec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festivus Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 hes good on the PK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan's Losers Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 11 hours ago, Festivus Bastards said: i like the Oilers too, but if they win another lottery; I'm done. Haha, but the Oilers are so skilled at the lottery! The day the Oiler's won the McDavid lottery, I was watching on TV and I yelled so hard my spouse came running down to see if I hurt myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leevaughn Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 I already said. It's Pacioretty and Gallagher for Draisaitl and Larsson. Maybe a pick or something from the Habs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan's Losers Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 19 hours ago, leevaughn said: I already said. It's Pacioretty and Gallagher for Draisaitl and Larsson. Maybe a pick or something from the Habs . That trade would horrible for Edmonton Oilers gave up Hall for Larsson straight up. No way they turn around and trade Larsson for much lesser assets AND throw Draisaitl into the deal. Throwing in picks won't make it better either unless its a 1st rounder in the top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegDunlop Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 I'm not sure it's fair to describe Pacioretty as a "much lesser asset" relative to Hall. Personally I think Lee's proposal makes sense. I might throw in a second. Patches, McDavid, and Lucic would be a fun line to watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leevaughn Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 13 hours ago, Logan's Losers said: That trade would horrible for Edmonton Oilers gave up Hall for Larsson straight up. No way they turn around and trade Larsson for much lesser assets AND throw Draisaitl into the deal. Throwing in picks won't make it better either unless its a 1st rounder in the top 10. It looks like it's going to be a first rounder in the top ten. They can have Jordie Benn too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leevaughn Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 12 hours ago, RegDunlop said: I'm not sure it's fair to describe Pacioretty as a "much lesser asset" relative to Hall. Personally I think Lee's proposal makes sense. I might throw in a second. Patches, McDavid, and Lucic would be a fun line to watch! somebody see's the light!!! Patches is a top end goal scorer on a tiny contract until the end of next year. They can't table the team they have money wise. They will have to move Hopkins or Lucic for zero return. Gallgher himself is a 20 goal scorer. We get a center and a dman. They get two really good wingers. A top pick and now Jordie Benn. They're still strong up the middle and the team looks way more complete. And they save 5 plus mill in cap space. I would make that trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Boys, I hate to be on Bergevin's side here, but you're not playing EA Sports. I love Gallagher, but he's a 45-point player with heart. Pacioretty and him don't get you a 22-year old, 220lb, +70 point first-line centre AND a top-4 dman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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