bill0755 Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 Right call? Too severe? Suspension should have been longer? what do you think.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphdog Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 I think it's crazy that he hasnt been suspended yet in these playoffs. A few very questionable hits and I think he left his feet several times. The hit on Wennberg stands out to me. It's all fun and nice to be aggresive but this guy skates the line every night. Take the rest of the series off asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 Personally I think it's just right. But I'm a Penguins fan, of course. The hit was borderline, but you can't give this guy the benefit of the doubt again. Third head shot THIS PLAYOFFS. And a suspension history. Plus the injury was severe. Seems like a no-brainer, to me. Four games might've made more sense though -- watch him come back for Game 7 and play hero somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammynos Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 Love this. 1 wasn't going to get the message across, just be a nuisance. Now he can't contribute until game 7 if it gets there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 I didn't see the Wennberg hit, but I don't see how he could be blamed for anythin on the Dumoulin incident. This one looked borderline to me when I was watching the game, but I haven't watched the replays since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originaljroc Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 I think the Kadri one was more predatory and he only got 3. Wilson should have had less than that. 1 game would have been more appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 I think severity of injury must've played into it. And I wonder if they give him more time because there was no penalty called on the play. Like an "oops, our bad" by the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 But also I think kadrishould've gotten 5... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougall Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 To be honest I might be minority but I don't think he should have got anything for this hit. I think that the NHL was trying to make up for the Dumelin hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecharm Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 Guy tries to injure plain and simple. Laughs on bench when opponent is in distress. In the old days pretty much every team had an enforcer to look after jerks like this. And he would pay dearly. Now the league must protect the players. They have been very inconsistent. But they got this one right. In fact should have been longer. ‘I am not a Pens fan but now I really hope they put away the Caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecharm Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 Another couple cents worth. IMO Kadri’s hit was not more predatory, not by a long shot. Kadri was reacting to Marner getting hit in the head. It was a split second decision. Wilson is out there cruising around wondering who he can waste out there. He looks for players in vulnerable positions. His hit was far more predatory. ZAR could have lifetime symptoms due to this. Broke his jaw, concussion. Or the symptoms could disappear but brain issues come out later in life. Dont give me the old time hockey, NHL is getting too soft BS, this stuff needs to get cleaned up. Too much is known now about brain injuries, it is very serious. I think it will get cleaned up eventually, and it couldn’t happen soon enough for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zigmund Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 9 hours ago, Dougall said: To be honest I might be minority but I don't think he should have got anything for this hit. I think that the NHL was trying to make up for the Dumelin hit Same here. ZAR could have tried to make him whiff on the hit instead he too looked for the contact. Dumoulin should indeed have result in punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecharm Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 God help us I hope you are in the minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 In isolation, I don't think the hit was worthy of 3 games. Other hits definitely were worse. But this one had the worse outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leevaughn Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 And the enforcer debate comes up again. Tom Wilson should have had his ticket punched in the Columbus series. Guys can't be running around all willy nilly cracking skulls. Somebody get Iron Mike Tyson some skates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leevaughn Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 If Washington gets to play the Bruins. I hope Grandpa Chara Rag Dolls him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwell Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Zigmund said: Same here. ZAR could have tried to make him whiff on the hit instead he too looked for the contact. Dumoulin should indeed have result in punishment. ZAR was boxed in by the other player, so he did what he was supposed to do and braced himself for the hit. You can see it in the replays. Wilson came in WAY too high and caught him in the face. He probably smashed his jaw into a bunch of pieces. Dude is a scumbag. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originaljroc Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Bluecharm said: Another couple cents worth. IMO Kadri’s hit was not more predatory, not by a long shot. Kadri was reacting to Marner getting hit in the head. It was a split second decision. Wilson is out there cruising around wondering who he can waste out there. He looks for players in vulnerable positions. His hit was far more predatory. ZAR could have lifetime symptoms due to this. Broke his jaw, concussion. Or the symptoms could disappear but brain issues come out later in life. Dont give me the old time hockey, NHL is getting too soft BS, this stuff needs to get cleaned up. Too much is known now about brain injuries, it is very serious. I think it will get cleaned up eventually, and it couldn’t happen soon enough for me. Kadri's hit was way more predatory and it's not even close. I even heard commentators on the radio debating if Wilson should have had anything, arguing his momentum carried the hit up into the head area. The fact he made contact with his head warrants a suspension, but you're overreacting on this one. You could also argue that the reason Wilson left his feet was due to momentum, too. Doesn't warrant more than a 1-game. He also did not hit a player in a vulnerable position. The Pittsburgh player turns and sees him coming. The guy Kadri hit - pure definition of a vulnerable position. Didn't see him coming, was down on the ice with his head against the boards. Kadri should have had twice the suspension that Wilson got. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougall Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 He got suspended because of the outcome. Plain and simple. He did not leave his feet and led with the shoulder like you are taught. Wilson is a dirty player at times and not a fan, but the guy is like 6’5” and the height difference is not his fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphdog Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 He went shoulder to face and end up jumping into the bench because he left his feet. Momentum schmomentum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwell Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 https://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2018/05/02/tom-wilson-suspended-three-games-illegal-head-check-penguins-zach-aston-reese/DoPS argued that Wilson could have stayed “low and hitting through Aston-Reese’s core,” but instead “extends up and into the hit unnecessarily, rising up onto the toes of his skates then coming completely off the ice through contact.” DoPS also explained that “the head was the main point of contact on a hit where such contact was avoidable.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecharm Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 The guy went in with such upward momentum that he ended up over and into his own bench. Look I didn’t like the Kadri hit either but it was reactionary, not predatory. And with his history the suspension was warranted. No argument. But Wilson planned his hit, you could see it coming. And he has a history too. He was planning to inflict maximum damage on ZAR. And he left his feet to do it. Predatory, dirty and despicable. And his reaction on the bench tells you everything you need to know. No respect and classless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Bagwell said: https://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2018/05/02/tom-wilson-suspended-three-games-illegal-head-check-penguins-zach-aston-reese/DoPS argued that Wilson could have stayed “low and hitting through Aston-Reese’s core,” but instead “extends up and into the hit unnecessarily, rising up onto the toes of his skates then coming completely off the ice through contact.” DoPS also explained that “the head was the main point of contact on a hit where such contact was avoidable.” They did a good job breaking it down. They've convinced me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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