leevaughn Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 Help with a debate gents.. Where does Nurse Rank as a top level Dman in the league? One guy is saying Nurse is garbage and one guy is saying Nurse is a top ten defensemen in the league. Speak your piece!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlak Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 Definitely not top ten, and definitely not worth his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festivus Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 Would be better if he was a Canuck ahahahahahah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipper Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 He’s a physical second pairing guy. But Edmonton needs him to be a top dman, so they’ll keep pretending he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes131 Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 avaerage good for our format but not at that cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes131 Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 dont think hes top 10 in central division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeoiler Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 Still better value than Werenski, so we got that goin' for us 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougall Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 Good dman for our pool and was elite vs his ticket last year. I dropped him this year as his price is stupid high now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raken65 Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 I gave up two 1st round Amateurs for him 2 years ago Helped me..checking notes..finish 2nd both years Also dropped his new contact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byz Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 As an Oilers fan with a completely objective take on Nurse... I think he's a top 30 Dman in the league, as in a low-end #1. He led the league in % time vs. elites last year and came out with a positive CF%. Granted, a lot of that time was with McDavid, but McD also hasn't had traditionally strong CF% numbers in the past. I feel like Nurse learned how to play defense last year at the cost of offense, and still has another step to go in tying both aspects together to become Doctor. Contract could be better, but that's the price for the Oilers bridging him for so long. That said, I would tab him as a ~$7.75-8m guy right now with some upside yet, so hardly a bad overpay IMO. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear in a Hammock Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 I agree with Byz. He is a good dman in real life NOT great or going to win you games by putting the team on his shoulders. But he will be solid. His contract should be around that 8 mill mark but Oilers signed him when they panicked as Jones, Werenski and all those guys were signing 9 mill contracts. Worst timing for the Oilers to sign him. In our league he is probably going to average around a top 20 mark for d-men and maybe in a good season get into the top 5. He saves himself by hitting and blocking a ton of shots. If he played first power play unit it might be a different story thats for sure. One year ago he was the top dman in our fantrax scoring league.... so thats something too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leevaughn Posted August 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 I think if he were getting those top PP numbers at the NHl level he could easily be regarded as one of the best Dmen in the NHL . He is a solid number 1 dman. Definitely top 20 in the league and top ten is debatable . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes131 Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 as a number 1 i dont even think top 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes131 Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 name 10 number 1s hes better than Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes131 Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 i get to about 5 ,though i havent given it much thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leevaughn Posted August 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 What's the deciding factor? TOI? Jones Chabot Werenski Provorov Heiskanen Dahlin Severson Parayko Morrisey Ekholm Brodin Dumba Pelech Petry Parayko It's not to say a guy like HEiskanen won't be better or doesn't have a higher ceiling. Some of these guys might not be a #1 but they played top minutes. Darnell Nurse eats minutes. Has shit goaltending behind him and Hits, Blocks and makes a huge difference for the oilers. If he got the PP time he's be cracking the 50 to 60 point mark. Forget his contract . This is about the player. I'd take Nurse anyday over all of these guys. He's big and nasty and does it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes131 Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 half the guy u names arent even the #1 on there team and i said in really hockey not in this pool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes131 Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 heiskanen now is better and was probably better the first game he played in the nhl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leevaughn Posted August 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 Those are the big minute guys. That indicates first pairing. Heiskanen has worse stats in almost every department. everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes131 Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 real life hockey not pool heiskanen all around is way higher than nurse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes131 Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 nurse is pronger but without talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leevaughn Posted August 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 Real life hockey. Heiskanen isn;t there yet. I'm not saying he's bad or isnt going to be better but he's not there yet. Stats are a direct reflection of what a player does on the ice. So yes its a very valid argument . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes131 Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 hes the same caliber as provorov but he has mcdavid and draisitil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmes131 Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 ben charoit would get the same stats on that team and close on hit pims and blocks too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leevaughn Posted August 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 Pronger is a special player. I believe Nurse could hit the 60 point mark if they gave him better starts. 44.7 DFZ starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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