leevaughn
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Frank is holding his stick bad .. SMH.
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53 minutes ago, Ralphdog said:
The question now is if Bossy played for Vegas, who would win game 7?
Definitely Sarasota
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1 hour ago, James said:
I think the only fair way to compare players across eras is to compare them relative to their contemporaries.
During Bossy's career, the Islanders had 3,322 goals, of which Bossy scored 573 (17.2%).
So far in Ovechkin's career, the Caps have 3,093, of which Ovechkin scored 607 (19.6%).
If you look at the top goal scorers in Ovechkin's era... his 607 dominates the next best... 411, 384, 382, 379, 375. His goals per game is also tops... 0.61 to Kovalchuk/Stamkos's 0.52 and Crosby's 0.48.
Bossy also dominated goal scorers in his era (with the exception of Gretzky, of course)... 573 for Bossy to Gretzky's 543 and Dionne's 461. Trottier is 4th with 378. Looking at goals per game, Bossy is second to Gretzky... 0.86 to 0.76. And ahead of Kurri's 0.68 and Tim Kerr's 0.61.
And then, of course, you have to look at the NHL as a whole... in Bossy's era there were 24 different teams that combined for 61,085 goals (2545 goals per team). In Ovechkin's era, 33 teams have combined for 85,953 goals (2604 goals per team). Of course, that's only 10 seasons for Bossy vs. 12.585 seasons for Ovechkin. So goals per team per season for Bossy... 254.5. Goals per team per season for Ovechkin... 208.32.
This assumes that the players each played full seasons. Worth noting that Bossy missed some time over his career... a total of 48 games, or 4.8 games per season. Ovechkin has missed 63, or 5.0 games per season. So factoring that in... Ovechkin has scored 22.8% of the Caps' goals in games that he's played. Bossy scored 18.3% of the Isles's goals in games that he played.
So I guess I'd conclude...
If Ovechkin played in Bossy's era for an average team, averaging approx 3.18 goals per game, and if he played the same number of games as Bossy (752)... you could argue that he'd score 545 goals.
And if Bossy played in Ovechkin's era for an average team, averaging approx 2.54 goals per game, and if he played the same number of games as Ovechkin (1003)... you could argue that he'd score 466 goals.
So I've spun myself in a circle. All in all, I think I'd say Ovechkin's the "greater" goal scorer, mostly on the grounds that he has nearly a full 0.1 goals per game more than the next guy. Bossy wasn't even the most productive goal scorer of his era... that goes to Gretzky.
It's science
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I'd like to point out. That if Bossy came forward in time. A talent like his would have elevated his game. Trained like the players trained today. I understand it's all conjecture when dealing with eras.
- Most consecutive 50+ goal seasons: 9
- Most 50+ goal seasons (not necessarily consecutive): 9 (tied with Wayne Gretzky)
- Most 60+ goal seasons (not necessarily consecutive): 5 (tied with Wayne Gretzky)
- Highest goals-per-game average, career (minimum 200 total goals): .762 goals per game
- Most power-play goals, one playoff season: 9 (tied with Cam Neely)
- Most consecutive hat tricks: 3 (tied with Joe Malone, who accomplished this twice)
Injured at 30 . who knows how many more times he could have lit the lamp.
Tied with the GOAT for 2 of those records.
Until records are broken .. and records get broken ... speculation isn't a leg to stand on.
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On 5/19/2018 at 4:34 PM, Ralphdog said:
Who is it you are referring to here?
buffalo
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5 hours ago, Vegeta said:
I hope badly its ovi time . Hes the goat of goal scoring bar none. I think he deserves a shot at the cup
I think Bossy might have Issue with this statement.
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I think everybody underestimates the prestige that comes along with returning the CH to the promised land. If Bergevin can talk and pay I see it as a huge possibility. A top level scoring winger in Pax. Shea Weber who everyone is counting out. Carey Price. Something he has never had is a star goalie.
A potential phenom rookie and a decent supporting cast in Byron , Gallagher , Drouin, Galchenyuk, Danault Alzner.
There's pieces. I do think it's a huuuuuuuge possibility.
You heard it here for the millionth time folks
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Nobody seems to think Tavares will end up in Vancouver? They got the money. I don't think Winnipeg can afford him long term. They won't be able to beat other perspective suitors. Every team in the league will be in that hunt. Where does he want to play?
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2 minutes ago, bill0755 said:
You certainly need a very solid star goalie too win the cup and not sure Saros is even a proven solid NHL goalie.
Tough contract to move on a goalie who shines in the regular season and was a key reason behind the Preds playoff loses the past two seasons.
With one year on the contract left. A team with goalie woes and some cap might make that move.
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You're not to far off from Tavares money . Tavares Johansen Turris up the middle smells like a cup.
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I don't think Vegas is supposed to be where they are.
Their top 5 scorers. Karlsson Marchessault Perron Smith Haula. All had career years.
Karllsson nearly tripled his output points wise.
Mathematically and as the past as reference. There's to many anomalies to be sustainable. The wheels should come off the bus.
When and where and if ? I don't know. It's really conjecture at this point.
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If Washington gets to play the Bruins. I hope Grandpa Chara Rag Dolls him.
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And the enforcer debate comes up again. Tom Wilson should have had his ticket punched in the Columbus series. Guys can't be running around all willy nilly cracking skulls. Somebody get Iron Mike Tyson some skates.
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Price and the third pick for Draisaitl and Talbot. Go. dooooo it go... Hurry up Bergevin
Sign Carlson and Evander Kane tooo while you're at it.
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top 333333333!!! go habs go!!!
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Only if he becomes a Hab
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It's suspicious definitely .
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12 hours ago, RegDunlop said:
I'm not sure it's fair to describe Pacioretty as a "much lesser asset" relative to Hall. Personally I think Lee's proposal makes sense. I might throw in a second. Patches, McDavid, and Lucic would be a fun line to watch!
somebody see's the light!!!
Patches is a top end goal scorer on a tiny contract until the end of next year. They can't table the team they have money wise. They will have to move Hopkins or Lucic for zero return. Gallgher himself is a 20 goal scorer.
We get a center and a dman.
They get two really good wingers. A top pick and now Jordie Benn. They're still strong up the middle and the team looks way more complete. And they save 5 plus mill in cap space. I would make that trade.
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13 hours ago, Logan's Losers said:
That trade would horrible for Edmonton
Oilers gave up Hall for Larsson straight up. No way they turn around and trade Larsson for much lesser assets AND throw Draisaitl into the deal. Throwing in picks won't make it better either unless its a 1st rounder in the top 10.
It looks like it's going to be a first rounder in the top ten. They can have Jordie Benn too.
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I already said. It's Pacioretty and Gallagher for Draisaitl and Larsson. Maybe a pick or something from the Habs .
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The boys in Long Island have done some crazy stuff in the past.
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Twice today I read. 15 million for 8 years and 14 million for 7 years.
Tavares is going to sign to McDavid money and then some. Some dope GM is going to overpay.
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Somebody please explain these things to me.
Las Vegas Knights????
The Duchene Jinx on Ottawa and Colorado?
John Klingberg???
Danton Heinen??
Kopitar and Brown?
The Oilers Woes??
Who wins Game 7
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You also forgot Mike Ricci dashing looks. Shame.