djb738 Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Supposedly Montreal and LA had a deal agreed to that would send Pacioretty to LA and he would sign an extension....but Pacioretty refused to sign the extension. Pacioretty and Montreal are not happy with each other right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawlesscdizzle Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 he also dumped his agent in that time frame too which is interesting. what does it mean? no idea. but you know..... interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeoiler Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 He was a good soldier in Mtl, underpaid the last few years. Maybe he's pissed at the habs and his old agent for not getting something done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb738 Posted July 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Supposedly Montreal has informed Patches that they will not negotiate a contract extension with. Over/Under on how long before he is traded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougall Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Sounds like he is being difficult on this as well. Perhaps he says lets play out the year and he can walk in FA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 max got treated like shit by mtl organisation mtl and him knew he was lowballed on the last deal Mtl basicly told max dont worry well take care of you Mtl makes max the captain Mtl then decide HOLD UP that will cost us 2 much fuck that lets trade him away if that isnt treason... what is when hes gone , mtl fan better applaud the kid and not booh him 226goals 222assist in 626 games for an average of 3m/season since entering the league... what a mess montreal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, Dougall said: Sounds like he is being difficult on this as well. Perhaps he says lets play out the year and he can walk in FA doesnt have Nmc in his contract if im correct, so he doesnt really decide. the worse he can do is say no to any extension talk with other team to lessen mtl return I suppose hes worth something like B level prospect + 1st or top prospect +2nd as a ''rental''À prolly a tad more if he signs a decent contract with another team , something along the lines of 7x7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 would think that his value is somewhere between Kane and Kucherov so in the 7-9.5m region, all beeing wingers. Prolly much closer to kane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 how bout that Pacioretty vs Callahan Johnson 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb738 Posted July 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 I would be more than happy to have him on the Hurricanes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 how about Pacioretty vs Spezza Honka 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 trying to use a cap dump in every trade with small term to maximize return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, djb738 said: I would be more than happy to have him on the Hurricanes. lemme see what I can comeup with dont see how this works, why you want patches but rumor has it skinner is shopped, they pretty much accomplish the same thing if anything Id take faulk Edited July 10, 2018 by Vegeta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb738 Posted July 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 I would only want Patches if he agreed to an extension. Skinner is being shopped because the belief is he told the team he wouldn’t sign an extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb738 Posted July 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 I would do Faulk for Patches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougall Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Vegeta said: doesnt have Nmc in his contract if im correct, so he doesnt really decide. the worse he can do is say no to any extension talk with other team to lessen mtl return I suppose hes worth something like B level prospect + 1st or top prospect +2nd as a ''rental''À prolly a tad more if he signs a decent contract with another team , something along the lines of 7x7 He does not have that so you are correct, but from what I'm hearing every team in discussion has been conditional upon an extension being done and apparently he was being difficult on that side. Montreal will get nothing worthwhile without that extension. Return for a rental on expiring is less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Interesting situation. Without an extension, I would think Pacioretty's value will be higher near the trade deadline than it is now. Do the Habs hold off until then to maximize the return? Hard to imagine. It's tough enough for everyone to keep a player who is unhappy on the team for two thirds of the season, it would be especially awkward when he happens to be your captain. I'm also super curious to know why he became such a persona non grata so quickly. He was named captain in 2015 with the full backing of the team, the season after Therrien is allegedly overheard calling him the worst captain ever, and the season after that Bergevin apparently wants him gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphdog Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Keane Koivu Carbanneau Damphousse Pacioretty....the "C" has been for a long while now, short for Cya later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougall Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 So I heard this morning that the hang up on trades is definitely the extension. The reason the last deal broke off at the draft is because Patches is holding firm on an 8 x 8mil extension. No one is going to pay a 30 year old, 30 goal scorer that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill0755 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 5 hours ago, Dougall said: So I heard this morning that the hang up on trades is definitely the extension. The reason the last deal broke off at the draft is because Patches is holding firm on an 8 x 8mil extension. No one is going to pay a 30 year old, 30 goal scorer that. Also read he would only consider signing an extension with the Florida Panthers. No team is trading for pending UFA like Paches unless they have some agreement that the player is agreeable to a multi year extension. Bad situation for Canadians as they cannot allow this player to get to UFA status and lose him for nothing. In this case, Patches holds ALL the cards...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, bill0755 said: Also read he would only consider signing an extension with the Florida Panthers. No team is trading for pending UFA like Paches unless they have some agreement that the player is agreeable to a multi year extension. Bad situation for Canadians as they cannot allow this player to get to UFA status and lose him for nothing. In this case, Patches holds ALL the cards...... if thats the case that hes going to FLA no matther what we can expect a return of a 1st round pick + b level prospect OR 1st pick Top prospect + cap dump player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill0755 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Or Florida can make an offer, Marc can reject, try to shop him to other teams, where he might not sign and extension, not trade him, let him play out the year and lose him for nothing when he reaches UFA status. Tough to negoitiate a great deal when everyone knows he may only sign and extension with Florida. Real tough situation as if he is traded to Florida, not sure the offer is going to be value for this player. Am sure Johnny T situation will weigh very heavily on Bergevins mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, bill0755 said: Or Florida can make an offer, Marc can reject, try to shop him to other teams, where he might not sign and extension, not trade him, let him play out the year and lose him for nothing when he reaches UFA status. Tough to negoitiate a great deal when everyone knows he may only sign and extension with Florida. Real tough situation as if he is traded to Florida, not sure the offer is going to be value for this player. Am sure Johnny T situation will weigh very heavily on Bergevins mind. Doesnt really mather . If hes traded as a rental hell get what a typival rental gets. Which is a 1st and some other stuff Factor in thats hes making 4.5m mtl can eat 2.25 . Getting a 1 year rental big 30 goal scorer is pretty neat. Hell a bubble team could flip him at deadline if their season turns to shit somehow and basicly get back what they paid for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb738 Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Hurricanes are in a similar position with Skinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festivus Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Habs should have gave less to Danault. Too much IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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